Comments on: Common Worship Ordination http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/2008/04/common-worship-ordination/ Sat, 10 Dec 2011 10:09:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: John http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/2008/04/common-worship-ordination/comment-page-1/#comment-816 John Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:26:38 +0000 http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/?p=140#comment-816 At the last ordination I went to, 2 Oak Hill people wore scarves, 13 others didn't. Of the robed ministers there, it was closer to 50/50. I'll probably also consult my training incumbent and might well wear what they wear to the ordination. At the last ordination I went to, 2 Oak Hill people wore scarves, 13 others didn’t. Of the robed ministers there, it was closer to 50/50.

I’ll probably also consult my training incumbent and might well wear what they wear to the ordination.

]]> By: bcg http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/2008/04/common-worship-ordination/comment-page-1/#comment-814 bcg Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:25:15 +0000 http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/?p=140#comment-814 I would agree. The dilemma for me is - I'm allowed to wear a scarf if I want, but no-one else will. So, do I really want to stick out like that for something that doesn't make theological sense, but in the end is quite harmless? I would agree. The dilemma for me is – I’m allowed to wear a scarf if I want, but no-one else will. So, do I really want to stick out like that for something that doesn’t make theological sense, but in the end is quite harmless?

]]> By: John http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/2008/04/common-worship-ordination/comment-page-1/#comment-812 John Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:17:46 +0000 http://www.kerrins.co.uk/blog/?p=140#comment-812 Which leads nicely on to one of my gripes about the Common Worship ordination service in the way it is usually practiced. The diaconate, as conceived of in the C of E, is not a Eucharistic function, so the vestments used and given and symbols, etc should not be Eucharistic ones. Yet many dioceses encourage or even only allow stoles to be given (rather than preaching scarves), and some even go so far as giving communion vessels as symbols of ordination to the diaconate, which makes little sense. A certain diocese I know of gives Bibles to people at their ordination, and allows a free choice of stoles or preaching scarves. If it was down to me, I might altogether prohibit stoles from ordination to the diaconate... Which leads nicely on to one of my gripes about the Common Worship ordination service in the way it is usually practiced.

The diaconate, as conceived of in the C of E, is not a Eucharistic function, so the vestments used and given and symbols, etc should not be Eucharistic ones. Yet many dioceses encourage or even only allow stoles to be given (rather than preaching scarves), and some even go so far as giving communion vessels as symbols of ordination to the diaconate, which makes little sense.

A certain diocese I know of gives Bibles to people at their ordination, and allows a free choice of stoles or preaching scarves. If it was down to me, I might altogether prohibit stoles from ordination to the diaconate…

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